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Romano-lavo-lil; word-book of the romany, or English gypsy language

Romano-lavo-lil; word-book of the romany, or English gypsy language Downloaded from https://academic.oup.com/nq/article/s5-I/17/338/4424039 by DeepDyve user on 12 April 2021 [5* a I. ATM. J6,74. 338 NOTES AND QUERIES. are said to be " ut malefactores quos invenemnt in ysttcyll" " the night of the festival of fraud or foresta ducerent ad Castrum Kichemond.* This deception." Now, at first sight, snch a designation of Epiphany seems strange and unaccountable. was in the reigns of Henry II . and Richard I. JOHN PICKFOBD, JU . Bat, Dearing in. mind the fact that " Turyll" is Newborn-no Rectory, Woodbridge. "Welsh for '"fraud or deception," and reading the narrative as given in St. Matthew, chap. iL, verses " MirrrruB IN DISCO," &c. (5 t h S. i. 145, 213.) 8, 10, 16, a very probable explanation suggests —T. W. C. reproduces from Father Prout the itself. Before the wise men departed,Herodcom- probably exact version of this distich and transla- manded them, when they had found the infant tion. LOED LTTTKLTON'S and W. P. P.'s hexa- Saviour, to bring him back word, his secret object, meters halt, as "datur " is an iambus. My own no doubt, being to destroy the infant. But they tradition seems to be inaccurate, in fact, but is a deceived Herod, by returning to their country correct tradition. another way, and Herod saw that he was mocked, WiccAincua does not "remind," but inform* &c Here we have a stratagem, the result being me, and I am obliged to him. Can any one refer the saving of the infant Jesus from slaughter by to the original record ! HERBERT RANDOLPH. Herod, and the escape of the wise men from the Sldmouth. clutches of that ruthless monarch. I doubt whe- SWANS (5th. S.'i. 308.)—Mythically, sunns were ther a better solution will be arrived at. said to sing immediately before death ; and, per- M. a R. chance, PoFpdore Vergil intended, by bis "great greefe of mind," the melancholy inevitable to the WATNECLOWTKS : PLOGH CLOWTES (5t h S. L107, beholder" and over-hearer of such melancholy 232.)—Let me assure vour fair correspondent, death-songs. A. B . G. MABEL PEACOCK, that I have not so forgotten the " folk-speech of Lindsev " as not to be aware that iHUttlXantauiS. " clowtes" are big nails. But, as she doubtless NOTES ON BOOKS, fcc. knows, the word is also a form of " cloths." I well remember havinjj once had a " diihclout Latin Pronunciation for Btgimm. By Arthur Holmei M.A. (fiivingtons.) pinned to my tail " for indulging in what I thought EXAMPLE, here, is preferable to description. The be- a very pardonable curiosity as to what was going ginner is told the diphthong or "i i to be pronounced on in the kitchen. But I ought to have mentioned ilh-C'h, the second vowel being sounded, the Brit only that the inventory speaks of "ij Wayne-clowtes breathed." " Multum " is to be pronounced " mooltoo(m) : the m thus indicated is " to be sounded Tery faintly, just and ij plogh clowtes, vd," which looks as if they enough to give a nasal sound to the vowel which next were cloths, perhaps for covering the wains and precedes it" " Chorus " is to be pronounced k-hiw-rftoi, ploughs when not in use. •' Vulteius is pronounced wOol-tSh-yOos." Many other Flekts.—Hero Miss PBACOCK is doubtless, as example* might be given; but the above will suffice to they say in Yorkshire, " somewhere about the nail- show Mr. Holmes's object. head," if not in the enso of "clowtes "; and again Eomano-Lato-LU j Word-Boot of tiu Romany, or Bng- in her reference for Gresman. For both she has lith Ofpty Langwni. With many Pieces "in Gypsy, illustrative of the WOT of Speaking and Thinking of the my best thanks. As to Allarivm, I am not so sure English Gypsies. With Specimens of their Poetry, and that she is right. an Account of Certain Gypsyries, or of Places inhabited The words about which Mn. HESSELS inquires by Them, and of various Things relating to Gypsy Life all occur in the inventory of Margaret Piggott, in England. By George Borrow. (Murray.) A.D. 1485, which will appear in a forthcoming THIS is one of the mo»t useful of Mr. Sorrow's contribu- tions to the history of Gypsy life, language, and literature volume of the Surtees Society. • J . T. F . The language seems to have come, not from one, bat many Hatfield Hall, Darliam. sources : but chiefly Eastern. To those who know that our bugbear word "Bogy" is a corruption of the Russian Allow me to quote, by way of illustration of and Polish word for " God," it miy be new to learn that what has been said concerning the meaning of the the Gypsy term for the Deity is " buvrel." The rolnme word tloictu, the following prophecy, supposed to i« full of most curious matter connected -with a people be fulfilled in Kett's Insurrection in Norfolk in who are fast dying out Their old bout dies with them 1549.— " What care we though we be so small ? The tent shall stand when the palace shall fall." " The country gnifli, Hobb, Dick, and Hick, With clubs and clowltd shoon, Svety Morning; a Triplet of Thoughts for JSvtty Day in Shall fill up DussindaJe with blood tki Year. (Tegg.) Of slaughtered bodies soon." Tns editor of this handsome volume gives, from sacred and ordinary sources, of ancient and modem date, three Gruman.—This word I imagine to exist in the wise sayings, leaving blank space opposite for the owner Latinized form Orassmannus. In days of yore, to add a fourth, or a comment on the three. The three when woodcraft was held in honour, and Wensley- for this d*y, 25th April, are from St Matthew, Newton, dale was to a certain extent a forest, atBainbridge, and Tholuck. They suggest the accessibility which a village in the Dale, there were " xii Forestarii et mortals have to God, and leave the writer room to say t> word on his onra experiences. ii Grasmanni." Tho duties of the latter officials http://www.deepdyve.com/assets/images/DeepDyve-Logo-lg.png Notes and Queries Oxford University Press

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Downloaded from https://academic.oup.com/nq/article/s5-I/17/338/4424039 by DeepDyve user on 12 April 2021 [5* a I. ATM. J6,74. 338 NOTES AND QUERIES. are said to be " ut malefactores quos invenemnt in ysttcyll" " the night of the festival of fraud or foresta ducerent ad Castrum Kichemond.* This deception." Now, at first sight, snch a designation of Epiphany seems strange and unaccountable. was in the reigns of Henry II . and Richard I. JOHN PICKFOBD, JU . Bat, Dearing in. mind the fact that " Turyll" is Newborn-no Rectory, Woodbridge. "Welsh for '"fraud or deception," and reading the narrative as given in St. Matthew, chap. iL, verses " MirrrruB IN DISCO," &c. (5 t h S. i. 145, 213.) 8, 10, 16, a very probable explanation suggests —T. W. C. reproduces from Father Prout the itself. Before the wise men departed,Herodcom- probably exact version of this distich and transla- manded them, when they had found the infant tion. LOED LTTTKLTON'S and W. P. P.'s hexa- Saviour, to bring him back word, his secret object, meters halt, as "datur " is an iambus. My own no doubt, being to destroy the infant. But they tradition seems to be inaccurate, in fact, but is a deceived Herod, by returning to their country correct tradition. another way, and Herod saw that he was mocked, WiccAincua does not "remind," but inform* &c Here we have a stratagem, the result being me, and I am obliged to him. Can any one refer the saving of the infant Jesus from slaughter by to the original record ! HERBERT RANDOLPH. Herod, and the escape of the wise men from the Sldmouth. clutches of that ruthless monarch. I doubt whe- SWANS (5th. S.'i. 308.)—Mythically, sunns were ther a better solution will be arrived at. said to sing immediately before death ; and, per- M. a R. chance, PoFpdore Vergil intended, by bis "great greefe of mind," the melancholy inevitable to the WATNECLOWTKS : PLOGH CLOWTES (5t h S. L107, beholder" and over-hearer of such melancholy 232.)—Let me assure vour fair correspondent, death-songs. A. B . G. MABEL PEACOCK, that I have not so forgotten the " folk-speech of Lindsev " as not to be aware that iHUttlXantauiS. " clowtes" are big nails. But, as she doubtless NOTES ON BOOKS, fcc. knows, the word is also a form of " cloths." I well remember havinjj once had a " diihclout Latin Pronunciation for Btgimm. By Arthur Holmei M.A. (fiivingtons.) pinned to my tail " for indulging in what I thought EXAMPLE, here, is preferable to description. The be- a very pardonable curiosity as to what was going ginner is told the diphthong or "i i to be pronounced on in the kitchen. But I ought to have mentioned ilh-C'h, the second vowel being sounded, the Brit only that the inventory speaks of "ij Wayne-clowtes breathed." " Multum " is to be pronounced " mooltoo(m) : the m thus indicated is " to be sounded Tery faintly, just and ij plogh clowtes, vd," which looks as if they enough to give a nasal sound to the vowel which next were cloths, perhaps for covering the wains and precedes it" " Chorus " is to be pronounced k-hiw-rftoi, ploughs when not in use. •' Vulteius is pronounced wOol-tSh-yOos." Many other Flekts.—Hero Miss PBACOCK is doubtless, as example* might be given; but the above will suffice to they say in Yorkshire, " somewhere about the nail- show Mr. Holmes's object. head," if not in the enso of "clowtes "; and again Eomano-Lato-LU j Word-Boot of tiu Romany, or Bng- in her reference for Gresman. For both she has lith Ofpty Langwni. With many Pieces "in Gypsy, illustrative of the WOT of Speaking and Thinking of the my best thanks. As to Allarivm, I am not so sure English Gypsies. With Specimens of their Poetry, and that she is right. an Account of Certain Gypsyries, or of Places inhabited The words about which Mn. HESSELS inquires by Them, and of various Things relating to Gypsy Life all occur in the inventory of Margaret Piggott, in England. By George Borrow. (Murray.) A.D. 1485, which will appear in a forthcoming THIS is one of the mo»t useful of Mr. Sorrow's contribu- tions to the history of Gypsy life, language, and literature volume of the Surtees Society. • J . T. F . The language seems to have come, not from one, bat many Hatfield Hall, Darliam. sources : but chiefly Eastern. To those who know that our bugbear word "Bogy" is a corruption of the Russian Allow me to quote, by way of illustration of and Polish word for " God," it miy be new to learn that what has been said concerning the meaning of the the Gypsy term for the Deity is " buvrel." The rolnme word tloictu, the following prophecy, supposed to i« full of most curious matter connected -with a people be fulfilled in Kett's Insurrection in Norfolk in who are fast dying out Their old bout dies with them 1549.— " What care we though we be so small ? The tent shall stand when the palace shall fall." " The country gnifli, Hobb, Dick, and Hick, With clubs and clowltd shoon, Svety Morning; a Triplet of Thoughts for JSvtty Day in Shall fill up DussindaJe with blood tki Year. (Tegg.) Of slaughtered bodies soon." Tns editor of this handsome volume gives, from sacred and ordinary sources, of ancient and modem date, three Gruman.—This word I imagine to exist in the wise sayings, leaving blank space opposite for the owner Latinized form Orassmannus. In days of yore, to add a fourth, or a comment on the three. The three when woodcraft was held in honour, and Wensley- for this d*y, 25th April, are from St Matthew, Newton, dale was to a certain extent a forest, atBainbridge, and Tholuck. They suggest the accessibility which a village in the Dale, there were " xii Forestarii et mortals have to God, and leave the writer room to say t> word on his onra experiences. ii Grasmanni." Tho duties of the latter officials

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